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Tom Preston is Wrong

Journal Entry: Mon May 7, 2012, 1:20 PM


[ Follow-up Journal Here: mpsai.deviantart.com/journal/T… ]



I don't usually do call out threads, but today I'm feeling sassy. Besides, the subject of this journal, TomPreston, blocked me a while back. I guess for being a "troll"?

I had seen his comics on the front page nearly every day and didn't think much of them, however after he wrote A Harsh Lesson I began to critique his work. Partially because I wanted to see if he'd practice what he preached (he doesn't) but mostly because he has the ear of many young artists and is sending them many bad messages. Over time critiquing him became an exercise for myself on the nature of comic making, and I got into interesting conversations with various people in the course of posting them.

I stuck to mostly his long-form comic work, and stuck mostly to critiquing writing and occasionally the art.

It came to a point where he seemed to have turned a corner. He cleared his block list and asked for critiques and redlines of a comic page, which I happily participated in and enjoyed doing. But then he started to relapse, constantly complaining about people still thinking he can't take critiques when he only once made the effort, and I guess telling him it was unfortunate to see him return to this over-defensive song and dance was the straw the broke the camel's back. I still see his comics on the front page, but I can't say anything about them.

But then there's this journal: tompreston.deviantart.com/jour…

Since I can't write a response on it, Tom, I'm writing one here on my own page. Though I doubt he'll see this, or if he does he'll ignore it, but much like my critiques it's more for myself and other people than it is for him, seeing as he's insisting on being a lost cause at the moment.

Where to start?

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"Maybe I'm old fashioned, but making art has never been solely about the technical expertise."

It's actually the opposite. Art used to only be about technical expertise. It's only been the last 100 years or so that it's become more about emotion and feeling (the modern ideas of art are thanks in large part to the development of psychoanalysis. Did you know Freud was a contemporary of and huge influence on Dali?)

Where yes, the focus of art is more on emotion now I sometimes feel that gives some people an excuse not to put any effort into their art.

And on a semi-related note one thing that frustrates me after the blocking is seeing TomPreston and his various fans excuse anatomy problems or writing problems or really any problems in TomPreston's work with the phrase "it's a CARTOON."

No.

Okay? No. I sometimes get the feeling that TomPreston doesn't actually respect comics and sequential cartooning because he really wanted to be an animator. He's working in a medium he doesn't really understand or respect and thinks he can use the medium as an excuse for shoddy craftsmenship.

Now don't get me wrong, I have many of the same problems he does. I have trouble drawing my characters consistently (though I'm getting better, I think.) I have alot of trouble with backgrounds and perspective. I often find myself using too many straight on angles and mid-shots and sometimes feel like gnawing at my own hands to break myself of the habit. But you'll never catch me saying "oh I'm just a cartoonist, it's only comic books, it doesn't matter."

He's passing down this attitude to impressionable youth who think "cartooning" doesn't have to take any effort or skill. It's already a bad attitude that exists, just look at several newspaper comics out there. It's not an attitude that needs to persist.

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"I make comics because I like telling stories. I like to see people laugh at my character's foibles. I like to build their suspense, and hit them with twists and turns. I want them to feel sad or happy during key events. I want my audience to enjoy what I produce. That has been, and always WILL be, my overall key goal as a cartoonist."

In my opinion where TomPreston needs the most work and discipline is in the writing department. His long-form SYAC comics ("A Harsh Lesson", "Persistence of Vision", and "Portfolio Day") were all meandering, unfocused, poorly paced and didn't really accomplish anything.

I've called him out on what I call "wasting pages" and "wasting panels" a few times, and the one time he responded was to tell me he felt I had a very binary and "bare bones" approach to comics. You can tell me whether you agree with that or not.

How many of you remember Mage Knights? I know I'm being self-indulgent using myself as an example, but I'm speaking from experience here. It was a short one-shot comic I made to practice digital comic making and how I was going to print things. It was basically a test. It's only available for purchase (though the first 5 pages are here, though I was considering just uploading the whole thing on dA in my Scraps)

It's 15 pages long.

In 15 pages I introduced the two main characters, four secondary characters, five minor characters, established the motivations and personalities of the two mains, the personalities and outlooks of their rival teachers, the personalities of the other two secondary characters, introduced a conflict, had an action climax, and wrapped up everything at the end.

15 pages.

TomPreston told me that's not enough time to write an interesting story.

I was also interested in reading his Alex Ze Pirate series, but it turned out to not be plot-driven, it's just a bunch of random scenes and scenarios with random barely developed characters who have not been properly introduced to the audience. Disappointing to say the least.

When he finally starts posting new pages for it I'd like to see if he used the more defined style he ended up drawing on his improved critique page.

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"Now then, despite me saying improvement is not an ultimate goal for me, I still recognize it as something to keep in mind in the back of my head. Many people have told me that artists change their styles gradually over time (which is true), but those same people seem to disregard this when it comes to me because I am not changing fast enough for their liking."

The problem here is TomPreston seems to actively be resisting change. Just recently he posted a comic about how he can't experiment with his art because he has to maintain the same style for a webcomic despite having no professional obligations. Although just before that he posted a comic he drew on a 3DS, and with a limited toolset outside his comfort zone he made something better looking than most of what he's doing right now.

It exposed that he can do better, he just won't.

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"It's gradual, and sometimes it can take years for this stuff to show itself. Jim Davis, for example, has taken close to 30 years to perfect his style"

That's because Jim Davis doesn't draw anymore. He just copies and pastes character models. Hell, he probably has a team do it, I doubt he has to lift a finger these days. I remember when I was a teenager a friend of my brother's suggested doing exactly that with comics to me. I was so flabbergasted and almost offended by the idea.

And besides which no one "perfects" their style. Even an amazing artist will continue to evolve, especially in comics/manga which requires one to draw constantly.

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"To sum things up:
1. Improvement for improvement sake is not my ultimate goal, never has been.
2. I acknowledge that I will improve, but gradually over time and not overnight."


Improvement should always be an artist's goal. It can happen organically but you should also keep it present in your mind and strive to push yourself now and then, otherwise you'll fall into stagnation. Artists are like sharks, if they don't keep moving they die.

Okay that was kind of a dumb analogy but you know what I mean.

"3. You can offer feedback and criticism.
4. I am under no obligations to follow your feedback and criticism if I feel it doesn't help me towards my goal."


Well I can't offer you feedback and criticism, Tom. You blocked me from doing so. You've blocked many people from doing so. Yes I know you get trolls but not everyone who points out a flaw in your work is one. You attract this attention with your attitude that you're a knowledgeable artist while never practicing what you preach. And because you could do so much better than you do now but proudly defy your own potential, and then celebrate that same act of self-sabotage. I'm not sure what your goal even is if it's not the improvement of your craft.


In conclusion it's alright if TomPreston has no will to improve, but the fact he attempts to write instructional and inspirational comics for young artists is something that heavily conflicts with that. It's debatable what kind of responsibilities people have if they become a role model, especially if they didn't mean to become one, but in my eyes you have a responsibility to at least attempt to set a good example.

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BridGypsum Featured By Owner Edited Oct 12, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I kind of feel bad for the guy; I mean, even if he improved his attitude and made super-awesome cartoons on par with Disney, he'd still get angry mobs tearing him to shreds; the damage is done, Anonymous does not forget or forgive. I think there's a large 'mob mentality' when it comes to attacking people like Tom Preston; it seems like they hate his guts just because the folks over at Encyclopedia Dramatica said he's an asshole.

I mean, this is probably one of maybe 3 reviews I've read on the guy that actually criticizes him as an Artist in his own right... and hundreds of others that boil down to "Tom Preston is a faggot lulz! Tom Preston is fat and ugly and has an inflation fetish and blah blah blah..."

Feel free to disagree, but I don't think drawing a picture of Tom drinking cum from a giant penis, covered in other men's jizz, and having sex with a frog qualifies as 'Constructive Criticism'.

The irony here is, I really don't like Tom Preston's art myself, but I feel like I have to keep my opinion to myself just to avoid being grouped in with 'that' lot. I guess what I'm saying here is I want to attack him as an Artist, not as a "faggot-bitch asshole fetishist lulzcow". Is that so wrong?
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AlcyoneSong Featured By Owner Mar 13, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
I commend you for calling writing this. I have studied comic art and I am ALWAYS looking for ways to improve. It is frustrating, and that frustration is something he has trouble with admitting to. It is frustrating to be critiqued but your redline is USEFUL, and the work was in the planning stage!!!

I forget even basic stuff like the Rule of Thirds or things like making characters "round". I don't draw enough, and that is part of the problem, but still an artist's goal must ALWAYS be to strive for perfection. Yes, story and rhythm is important, but there must always be an attitude of humble acceptance of criticism. We always can improve ourselves. Although, with that said, it is a fucking hard pill to swallow. Especially when ya feel so confident in an illusion that your work is bad ass. I speak from personal experience here, I find critiques hard to write and hard to take unless they are from people like you who aim to show me (not just tell me) what sucks and what I can do to fix it. This has taken YEARS and many tears to overcome. The biggest hurdle is fear. I am afraid to step forward and put new work up, because I don't think it's good enough.

His attitude is wrong. I'm not sure why he has such a chip on his shoulder. Yet he has a very immature attitude, and does not take his own work seriously. I feel bad for him, because critique does not mean "defend" it means "improve." He seems to feel like there is a need to defend his work, when really it's not about that, it's about taking advice from other professional artists and getting better!

I just don't get it.
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trp86 Featured By Owner Jan 5, 2013  Hobbyist
Amen to everything on this, and thank you. :thumbsup:
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Loozer-s Featured By Owner Sep 24, 2012
Damn well said.
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City-of-Zeroes Featured By Owner Sep 13, 2012
Wow, that's a lot of ... um... well... wordz.

1. I didn't read all your complaints
2. Was entertained by Tom Preston's work prior to you so I'd have to say I'm biased
3. "Anatomy" and "It's just cartoons" are poor arguments for you.

It is "just cartoons". Like Calvin and Hobbes, Peanuts, Garfield, and just for fun, Popeye. The anatomy of the characters within these cartoons/comics is very, very off. They are also considered successful and at least two of these are considered Gold Medal material.

As long as the art is good enough to get the laugh across along with the joke, obviously, then it's good enough for a throw away cartoon. If I'm willing to read it, laugh at it, then, when I discover I'm out of TP, wipe my ass on it (assuming the ink wont stain) then anatomy is hardly a stellar requirement.

The Far Side, Gary Larson (Again, anatomy issues and yet...who really cared?)

Anyway, just cartoons and anatomy are all I was addressing.
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metagross111 Featured By Owner Sep 15, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
all of those comics you mentioned weren't simply a medium to bitch at everyone in the world and act all impressive and clever about it. Tom Preston is an egomaniac and an asshat, and with his recent batman related deviation, a very insensitive asshat.
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City-of-Zeroes Featured By Owner Sep 15, 2012
[link] This one?
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metagross111 Featured By Owner Sep 16, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
more recent. the one with the squid. basically ranting about how the massacre makes thinking about the recent batman movie difficult
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City-of-Zeroes Featured By Owner Sep 16, 2012
Went through some 15 or so pages of different galleries and sub galleries and the closest thing I found is [link]

Gonna need a link there cause the above has nothing to do with Batman or a massacre to me.

Also, the Bat-Nip was Sept 12, 2012, so, probably nothing more recent than that.
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metagross111 Featured By Owner Sep 16, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
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City-of-Zeroes Featured By Owner Sep 16, 2012
"all of those comics you mentioned weren't simply a medium to bitch at everyone in the world and act all impressive and clever about it. Tom Preston is an egomaniac and an asshat, and with his recent batman related deviation, a very insensitive asshat."

Wow, getting lost there, I did not know this was a 40 page fired up topic.

My first response is:
[link]

Political cartoon, quite insensitive to others points of view (if you count ridiculing/mocking people insensitive, which it is)

Every one shot, single panel political cartoon ever.

Left wing, Rightists, Elitists, all these words classify people and could be seen as wrong(judging people).

In fact "a medium to bitch at everyone in the world and act all impressive and clever about it" is a perfect description for every opinionated comic, book, cartoon, and(I love this part) [link] .

The Dictator in that last link, for this and other "opinionated" reasons finally found himself ostracized and pretty much kicked out/exiled from America.

Quick check: Expressed an opinion: He most certainly did
Feel impressive: Sure, his first truly non-silent roll
Clever about it: Chaplin's character pretty much defined "Clever"

Because his opinion differs from yours doesn't mean he's wrong.
Just 99% of political cartoons are.

In my comment with MPsai, I addressed an inaccurate statement by MPsai about a specific subject, Art -->Cartoon -->Anatomy. My arguments were direct, addressed the issue and provided evidence. I did not call MPsai names, nor did I speak abusively of MPsai.

Your statement here is pure opinion, and inaccurate. Peanuts has been quite vocal about opinions on life and how people should behave and religion, like Charlie Brown Christmas. "And that's what Christmas is all about, Charlie Brown" - Linus

Calvin and Hobbes? Anti-War comic comes to mind. They shoot each other with darts, look at down, then back at each other and Calvin says "This is dumb."

Could Preston have given his opinions in a gentler, much more palatable way? Does the sun shine?

Has Preston seemingly got caught up in the rage posting of the internet, as 40 pages of people wham, bam, thank you ma'aming this post tends towards? Possibly

If Preston had an opinion(I think is what you are trying to say) he should've expressed it kindly, politely, and with sensitivity.

Words like "Bitch" & "Asshat" are probably not the right way to express an opinion.

PS: Flame war journal entries on DA would certainly count as "simply a medium to bitch at everyone in the world and act all impressive and clever about it".

-ending involvement with a 40 page (dead horse) flame war.
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MPsai Featured By Owner Sep 14, 2012   Digital Artist
You might then want to read the follow up I wrote where I discuss cartooning in more detail.

Characters like Calvin and Hobbes or Popeye are exaggerated, but they still have an internal consistency in the way they're drawn. If a character is drawn poorly it's often called "off-model", though I suspect Tom doesn't exactly have models for his characters to begin with.

My point was he and his fans excuse simple drawing errors and poorly constructed characters with "It's just a CARTOON" and that annoys me, because it implies that cartooning doesn't and more importantly shouldn't take much thought, effort or skill.

"As long as the art is good enough to get the laugh across along with the joke, obviously, then it's good enough for a throw away cartoon. "

Well it is clear you didn't read the entire thing, because I made it pretty clear I thought Tom's biggest problem is his writing and that's mostly what I was critiquing when he blocked me.
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City-of-Zeroes Featured By Owner Sep 14, 2012
I stated I didn't read it all(twice, actually, it was one of my opening statements), nor was I going to, that was a lot. I addressed one point(the anatomy) and it stands.

If you had other statements to make about a specific subject they should've been in that paragraph/section. College professors will ding you for not supporting your statements in the same paragraph. So I do here, as well.

You charged his art was not using correct anatomy: I proved that isn't necessary for a "just a cartoon/comic" by citing examples.

You've now added that you "suspect Tom doesn't exactly have models for his characters to begin with".

That is only a mud slinging statement. You have no evidence to prove this, you have no citing of Tom's admissions to this, and you have admitted you are not an expert in the field. Why would your opinion matter in court? If it doesn't matter in court, why should it matter here to Tom or anyone else(This is the *expert opinion* situation called for in court cases so often)?

As far as the anatomy statements go, I've shown that "just cartoons" don't require exact anatomy. Every squash and stretch animation technique would be destroyed by insisting on perfect anatomy.

If you repeatedly brought up anatomy to him, then yes, he could conceivable think of you as a troll and want to block you.

As for the rest of your arguments against him *shrug* I'll leave those to whoever else.

I will say this, in re-reading some of your statements multiple times part of you is distinctly troll. Whether you want to be or not, you have trolling going on. However, most(all) people are trolls to some extent.

You also sound like you care a great deal about cartooning. Like you don't want it to be "passed over" as childish and unsophisticated/complex/jejunal. Which is what Tom wants in so many of his SYAC bits. Its what I want when I tell people I'm a writer then they look at a book without pictures and are baffled as to why I think they would enjoy it.

It is entirely possible your critiques may have had valid points, but if you came off as a Troll then any good your critiques might have done has been destroyed by the blocking.
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MPsai Featured By Owner Sep 14, 2012   Digital Artist
"If you had other statements to make about a specific subject they should've been in that paragraph/section. College professors will ding you for not supporting your statements in the same paragraph. So I do here, as well."

First of all, I wasn't writing an essay. I was countering Tom's statements point by point in a largely casual manner. Second of all from the way you said that I'm going to guess you've just entered college and that's why you're giving what a college professor would grade something so much weight when it's completely unrelated to the topic.

"That is only a mud slinging statement. You have no evidence to prove this"

It's not mud slinging. His characters aren't drawn consistently at all, it's easier to draw consistent characters with a model. This is a very basic thing.

"Why would your opinion matter in court? If it doesn't matter in court, why should it matter here to Tom or anyone else(This is the *expert opinion* situation called for in court cases so often)?"

I'm not sure what you're trying say, I'm speaking from my experience as a comic book artist, a graphic designer, and a professional freelance artist. I think that makes my opinion informed, and criticizing the methods and work ethic of someone in you industry doesn't need to work like legal evidence. Why would you even think that?


You might want to look up what trolling actually is. People tend to label any criticism or simply any statement they don't like as "trolling" these days.
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ImJTHM Featured By Owner Aug 20, 2012
The man is angry at the internet for being approximately 90% hateful assholes and he doesn't want to sit back and take it.
Sometimes he overreacts, and sometimes he just doesn't feel like dealing with it.

Is he an asshole? Yes, but he is also acting completely logically, if a bit overly emotionally. If you had thousands of people calling you an asshole constantly, you'd eventually see the world through that colored lens, and you'd think everyone was actively trying to piss you off.
Ironically, it worked, but from a totally new direction.

So yes, it is somewhat his fault. However, I see it as more of a "society as a whole" thing. Just because most artists cna handle being called no-talent hacks nearly constantly, doesn't mean everyone else can. The man is pissed at his only means of work, and can't find a way to do it in a way that makes him happy, thanks to the near constant criticism for every little fucking thing he does.
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thefruitsong Featured By Owner Aug 16, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
I know this is late, but I actually just started to notice this myself. I liked his old stuff a lot better... But he just seems to have regressed in style.
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ElCalvoDeElGenio Featured By Owner Jul 19, 2012
¿Qué wea gringo ql?
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FakeTutour Featured By Owner Jul 17, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Interesting. I have a question for you though: how well do you take criticism? obviously he does not take it well, but can you say that if all of deviantart was in an outrage over your abilities and your opinions and your journals, to the point that other artists were putting up rants about you, how well could you take it? You have lovely comics, but you did not react well when he criticized how short it was. He has a lovely way of telling jokes, but did not react well when you told him his pacing, use of space, and anatomy was wrong. It seems like two sides of one coin are arguing with each other, and quite frankly, I'm sick of it. You are not listening to him, he is not listening to you. He blocked you, you ranted about him. I don't care about this issue, I just want to read some comics, thank you very much, regardless how they could be improved, and whether or not anyone is arguing about it.
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MPsai Featured By Owner Jul 17, 2012   Digital Artist
Thing is I don't think I'd get myself in that situation in the first place, because I already take people's advice and I've learned from my own influences not to be so attached to every idea you have and not be afraid to re-draw, re-write and refine, or as Windy Pini puts it: "[D]on't be afraid to apply the pruning shears - or even some dynamite, if that's what it takes - to something you've written or drawn." That right there is one of Tom's biggest problems, he seems to think his ideas are objectively brilliant and should be recognized as such while just a few "haters" have a problem with his popularity and nothing else.

"You have lovely comics, but you did not react well when he criticized how short it was."

He didn't actually directly comment about my comics, I don't think. He just made an assumption about my methods based on my criticism of his pacing. I'm not sure what you mean about him criticizing how short they are?

Tom has made himself a fascinating and frustrating personality to dissect, and I think his combative and antagonizing attitude just causes things to escalate more and more. Thing is it seems people find it more acceptable to negatively discuss figures like Uwe Boll or Rob Liefeld or Stephanie Myer than it is a low-level professional like Tom. But Tom and I are about the same level of small-time professional, he's laid claim to the same medium as me and I just don't care for how he chooses to represent it. Dissecting his broken methods and poor approach to things is also a focal point for me to talk about comic making in general.
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FakeTutour Featured By Owner Jul 17, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
I said I don't care. As in no one should care. As in you are both making asses of yourselves. As in I just don't like to see artists fight. As in I just want to read comics. I had hoped you would ignore my comment or admit that this needs to end eventually, regardless who is right and who is wrong. I'm done. I guess no one cares about what I think, I'll just ignore the drama, and stop trying to play peacemaker. Enjoy your debates, I know that they are fun.
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KittyChama Featured By Owner Jul 30, 2012
I know this is old but if you said you don't care, why bother trying to play peacemaker? You're only making an ass out of yourself too.
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FakeTutour Featured By Owner Jul 30, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
I mean that I don't care about who draws what or how enough to think that there ought to be fights over it. You are correct, however, I should have just avoided the drama. Because when someone tries to calm down a fight, it turns out they get called an ass.
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KittyChama Featured By Owner Aug 2, 2012
Most of the time, it's better to stay out of fights like these. It's true about Tom Preston being kind of a douchenozzle, and Mpsai is no better crying out like this. Just let it be is all.
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FakeTutour Featured By Owner Aug 2, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
I believe that is what I said earlier in this comment thread. Good day. I'm done.
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MPsai Featured By Owner Jul 17, 2012   Digital Artist
I'm not sure why you would comment wanting your comment to be ignored. I like discussions, and so I discuss. I'm not sure it's necessary for you to play peacemaker when I'm not even directly talking to the subject. More like, reviewing him. Talking about the comments on what he said.
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JamesJimRaynor Featured By Owner Jun 30, 2012
Tom Preston has egomania issues.
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ndunsmo Featured By Owner Jun 30, 2012
BTW, just checked out a bit of your comic and I'm liking it so far.
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MPsai Featured By Owner Jun 30, 2012   Digital Artist
Thanks!
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ndunsmo Featured By Owner Jun 30, 2012
You gave me a lot to think about here. I knew Andrew had issues before, heck, his constant references to drama surrounding him in his SYAC series really get to me, but man, I'm not even sure if I should like his stuff anymore... too bad I tend to care more about writing than art. (Though I do admit, his writing in Formera is kind of laughable)
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MPsai Featured By Owner Jun 30, 2012   Digital Artist
You can like his stuff, but I just have a real problem with his attitude sometimes.
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RedRobZX Featured By Owner Jun 30, 2012
Hmm, you have a point, and people seem to hate him for many reasons, like being a hypocrite with his advice at times and and refusing to take criticism.
But I would like to hear your opinion on this journal about him. [link]
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MPsai Featured By Owner Jun 30, 2012   Digital Artist
Well I know I disagree with the take on A Harsh Lesson and Persistence of Vision, the latter of which missed its mark completely and contained a completely unnecessary and rather bafflingly homophobic subplot.
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R00-ha-ha Featured By Owner Jun 14, 2012  Student General Artist
Man, Tom Preston pisses me off for those exact reasons.
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el-posto Featured By Owner Jun 7, 2012
Along this vein: I follow Tides (read it in spurts due to busy-ness, unfortunately). All the structures in it are good--buildings, panels--so I don't notice them, but anatomy is one of the weakest points! I've noticed that the characters lose structure and definition below the waist, especially when running and from extreme angles, and faces don't quite suggest as much of a skull as they could. I don't know how much time you have, but figure drawing would definitely lock everything into place!

(I'm not really one to talk; I rarely draw anymore...!)
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MPsai Featured By Owner Jun 7, 2012   Digital Artist
Well that's kind of why I ended up on such a long hiatus with it. I was kind of falling into a routine and plowing through sketches too quickly. I've been working harder on making the characters more consistent and solid looking, but with working slower and my freelance work I've had a hard time getting back to it x_x
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el-posto Featured By Owner Jun 7, 2012
I understand. Good to hear you're working on it! (Now to not do a Tom Preston and go draw...)
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Gae-ta Featured By Owner May 21, 2012
Hm... I DO enjoy Prestons' comics and more than once I've tried to memorize his advice but... you do have a point here, I'd be blind to say otherwise.
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Hearts-Are-Cold Featured By Owner May 19, 2012  Student General Artist
I like some of his old SYAC comics, because they were goofy and kind of relatable... but that's just me. That being said, I don't really like Tom as a person at all. Or his art.

Also, I always beat myself up over feeling like I haven't improved enough. Now I can say that at least I've improved more than Tom over the past year and a half. .-.
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Hearts-Are-Cold Featured By Owner May 19, 2012  Student General Artist
I'M A SHARK.
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DeepC Featured By Owner May 19, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
"Artists are like sharks, if they don't keep moving they die."

I can highly agree on that.
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doctordilemna Featured By Owner May 19, 2012
you will find this to be awesome, then. [link]
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FireconOwner Featured By Owner May 16, 2012
I've found this to be an emerging attitude problem with quite a few deviants (I name no names; there's enough drama on this site as it is). Any attempt to steer people with real talent with drawing is met with all sort of fallacies: "I'm just doing it for fun!" "Let's see YOU do better!" "It's only a cartoon!" "You weren't nice to me, so I'm going to ignore you!"

It really does make you want to throw your hands up in despair - they've fallen into thinking their work is "good enough", so they stop pushing themselves and only listen to sycophants.
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doctordilemna Featured By Owner May 19, 2012
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TheWickedKid Featured By Owner May 16, 2012  Hobbyist Artist
I posted on that journal saying the reason people yelled at him was because one minute he's, "No, you can't draw anime! You have to draw from life and learn technical skills before you draw anything else ever!"

Then he posts journals like this.
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doctordilemna Featured By Owner May 19, 2012
that's why this guy punched him in the face.[link]
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MPsai Featured By Owner May 16, 2012   Digital Artist
I really am beginning to suspect every opinion on art and bit of advice he gives is just a way to defend his own self, that would explain why it shifts from situation to situation.
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doctordilemna Featured By Owner May 19, 2012
which is why this guy took care of it.[link]
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procon-8 Featured By Owner May 20, 2012  Student Traditional Artist
Please stop promoting that comic.
It's funny, we all saw it the first time you posted it.
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doctordilemna Featured By Owner May 20, 2012
did i accidently post it to ya twice? whopps.
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procon-8 Featured By Owner May 20, 2012  Student Traditional Artist
You posted it like every other comment.
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